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James Delingpole's avatar

'The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose' Merchant of Venice

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Maddy's avatar

Just my opinion but could this be the goal? We know the controlled opposition has to cover many demographics of awakening people therefore many different "personalities" will have been put in place to 'herd' those groups. Some will have been put in place decades ago, to back their claims of "I've been talking about this for years". What I have noted with Hugo is the sudden 180 switch to Christianity ...and more importantly The End Times Narrative which he now focuses on; constantly referring to the vaccine or the passports as being "the mark of the beast". Every video is now linked to biblical scripture, which doesn't feel authentic to me. So could the group of controlled opposition put in place to herd this particular group, be USING Eschatology/ Revelation to create a group of people who are happy to remain passive and less of a threat to the "System", as they are convinced their beliefs are playing out. This serves the new world order by creating large groups of people who are much less likely to fight back.

And for anyone interested in the proof that HugoTalks is John Bassett please listen to this interview he did as King Bathmat in 2013 available on Mix Cloud.

https://www.mixcloud.com/kscopeears/25th-august-2013-interview-with-john-bassett-from-kingbathmat/

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sue's avatar

Such sensitive treatment of dear Shylock didn't you notice James?

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Charles Summers's avatar

One of the New Testament’s most common admonitions is to be always on guard for false prophets. They’re everywhere.

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Baldmichael's avatar

And don't forget false profits too. Today that includes big pharma's false profits. They indicate a huge scam.

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Charles Summers's avatar

For sure. Reader discretion is advised

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Bob C's avatar

Creepy intro music always put me off!

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Maddy's avatar

It is his own music. He is the progressive rock musician King Bathmat aka Sacred Ape aka Sacred Messiah.

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The immediate red flag for me is the religious tunnel vision Hugo has. It's quite ironic actually, and obnoxious, given that someone seeking truth should become so closed minded without thoroughly investigating all information first (other religious systems, philosophies, psychology, occult etc). That makes one an avid believer, a preacher even in his case, which is totally antithetical to being a truth seeker! A truth seeker looks under every rock.

His refusal to entertain valid critical questions, and the rapid adoption of such a position, makes me suspicious. Maybe it's just a selling point for his brand, but on an intuitive level I have the same feelings as I do towards 'The Lotus Eaters', Russell Brand, and even Peter Hitchens (another religious convert). My intuition may be wrong of course, however when you find the rare people who are truly sincere.. and also don't have family connections to the military industrial complex.. then it tends to reinforce that initial intuition that the aforementioned people are not being sincere by contrast (choice of phrase, tone of voice, omission of information, facial expressions, and the eyes). There is a lack of congruence, basically. Not only that.. but look at what they choose to focus on. Hugo is extremely negative. The Lotus Eaters focus on irrelevant culture wars nonsense (as does Murray), as if there wasn't more important things to discuss. None of these people strike me as sincere and working for our collective best interest. I think they're playing games - whether intentionally or not, is a personal choice to make.

I know you're fascinated with Christianity too, James. It is not my position to dissuade anyone from sincere practice of a discipline that brings them peace of mind or keeps their ship steady, but I will say once you dig deep across all the various religions and systems then you can see parallels, similarities, and a tremendous overlap in the accounts of the mystics belonging to all the various denominations. It shows quite clearly that there is a Truth common to all, and is also available to all. A Truth which does not require a Church, a religious text, or dressing up on a Sunday. It is something that can be reached by birth rite as a human being, and is an inherent biological possibility, and also perhaps the next stage of our evolution; Richard Bucke talks about this possibility in his book 'Cosmic Consciousness', Gopi Krishna too, and others.. all from different parts of the world and times.

I've read too widely and experienced too much first hand to ever find myself shoehorned into a religious system. In truth I was inoculated at a very young age, thanks to many experiences had at the threshold of sleep. It's sad to me that so many people miss the potential that is inherent within us, right now. It is so close, yet so far to many. People like Hugo do a tremendous disservice by dissuading people from investigating things for themselves, through meditation for example, or making them fearful of sleep paralysis as some sort of demonic activity through a Christian narrative. Ironically that type of inculcation of fear IS the very evil that Hugo vehemently espouses he is against!! It's exactly what the RC Church has done all along.. making people afraid to look for themselves, within themselves.

How do you think Jesus did it, or any of the other enlightened individuals. KNOW THY SELF.

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Si55's avatar

Great comment.

At first I thought Hugo just had no idea no idea what he was talking about when he was denouncing meditation, calling it 'new age'.

Now I see that he is deliberately leading people away from connecting to God through meditation.

'Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.'

Luke 17:20-21

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ExPlan Nation's avatar

You say, "A truth seeker looks under every rock." At first glance this seems correct. But when one reflects on your proposition for a few minutes, one realises it involves a number of quite sizeable assumptions...

For example, it assumes that God doesn't exist - or that, if He does, He makes zero effort to direct genuine truth-seekers to the true Rock (and to warn them about looking under other rocks).

It also assumes that no human has the capacity - should they choose to make use of it - to obtain an accurate idea of the soundness (or otherwise) of what lies under a particular rock through observing the behaviour etc of the individuals teaching the belief system linked to said rock.

It also assumes that it is not possible to discern that whatever lies under one rock is closely related to what lies under another rock (through, for example, both of them producing the same sulphurous stench).

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Maddy's avatar

This is a comment I left for someone else... but I believe it applies here :)

"Just my opinion but could this be the goal? We know the controlled opposition has to cover many demographics of awakening people therefore many different "personalities" will have been put in place to 'herd' those groups. Some will have been put in place decades ago (David Icke ?), to back their claims of "I've been talking about this for years". What I have noted with Hugo is the sudden 180 switch to Christianity ...and more importantly The End Times Narrative which he now focuses on; constantly referring to the vaccine or the passports as being "the mark of the beast". Every video is now linked to biblical scripture, which doesn't feel authentic to me. So could the group of controlled opposition put in place to herd this particular group, be USING Eschatology/ Revelation to create a group of people who are happy to remain passive and less of a threat to the "System", as they are convinced their beliefs are playing out. This would also apply to the 'New Age/ We are all one consciousness' group that also encourages passivity. Ultimately both serve the new world order by creating large groups of people who are much less likely to fight back.

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Eschatology is a word you don't hear often. Strangely enough, I heard it earlier today when I was listening to a Terence McKenna talk he gave of the same name - another character that had the oratory skill of Jordan Peterson and wove together some valid observations, but still suspicious.

Your explanation is one possibility. So I'll throw out another for consideration;

The system is equally afraid of people posing an opposition to it as it is of people turning their backs on it entirely, and by turning away I'm talking about a mental turning away not merely a physical one here. Both are two sides of the same coin, because they are both ultimately a spiritual vector not just a physical force - the system prefers the former however, because it can fight a material battle and ultimately violence only begets the same (so the system might get destroyed but out of the ashes the seed of failure will already be in our psychology for the end of the next cycle). It is also why the system has wiped out any real competition for the hearts and minds of the people, other ways of being that demonstrate another reality is possible.

The common thread between all these seemingly different concept structures is that they demand our attention. Without our attention they evaporate, and so too would the system if people turned away. End times narrative uses fear to keep their psychic energy focused, the new-age uses mental diffusion.

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Maddy's avatar

Thank you for your reply, although I'm not sure I fully understand what you're proposing. Could you please explain what you mean by ..."other ways of being that demonstrate another reality is possible"

Sadly I believe the New Age will be used by TPTB as part of their Hegelian Dialectic. We can already see how they are pushing an 'inclusive' agenda especially regarding gender, and that fits perfectly with the narrative of 'we are all one'.

And what I have also noticed is a sudden focus on the use of psychedelics in the main stream. Huge amounts of money is being invested in companies that are looking at ways of using psychedelics such as cannabis, LSD, psilocybin, ayahuasca, DMT and MDMA for treating diseases such as depression.

This is a particularly disturbing study I came across that hilights the nefarious uses they could have in mind. It is a study carried out by a group of scientists including Dr. Robin Carhart-Harris who is head of the Centre for Psychedelic Research at Imperial College London. The research project was titled :- ‘Relational Processes in Ayahuasca Groups of Palestinians and Israelis’ and looked at Unity-Based Connection – collective events in which a feeling of unity and ‘oneness’ is experienced, whereby participants related to each other based upon a sense of shared humanity, and in which other social identities seemed to dissolve (such as national and religious identities).’ I personally find that terrifying.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34093170/

I don't believe the WEF and their 1984 Communist agenda was ever the end goal.

I believe their Hegelian solution will be more akin to a New Age Utopia, where the use of psychedelics will bring to fruition the true meaning of their promise of :

‘You will own nothing and be HAPPY’.

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-=SS=-'s avatar

"Other ways of being". This is very deep and esoteric subject, one which I would need to write an entire essay or even a book to elucidate fully. In short, there is a direct link between our neurology, the mental (*) construct of consensus reality we all share as a particular tribe/culture/state/society, and what we think of as 'physical reality'. The collective dream we are participating in is far more malleable than we know, and it is the psychic force of the masses that holds it in place - the various beliefs we hold about physicality, laws, what is possible and permitted. (*) - Mental and spiritual are synonymous.

There have been demonstrations of alternatives, in particular with various indigenous and native peoples about the world. Most of which have had their systems shattered through persecution or colonization. On an individual level there have been demonstrations, of which the Jesus character is one of them. This is a person who has broken away from the consensus dream and stepped beyond it, and within the story you see the hidden thing I'm getting at is also revealed; he couldn't perform miracles in his home town. Belief can move mountains, but if everyone believes the opposite it will not be moved.

The New-Age is a very difficult thing to dissect because it is inherently entangled with the various subjective experiences available to a person e.g. psychedelics, meditation, mystical states, which in themselves do in fact have tremendous validity. This is where Hugo is missing a step and doesn't know what the hell he is talking about, whereas I have a far greater triangulation going on because of my own first hand experiences - obviously my experiences do not constitute proof to anyone but myself, and you should doubt me.

There is tremendous power and potential available. This is why TPTB have had to resort to 'diffusion' in regards to the psychedelic scene and the New-Age thing, to stop people being able to triangulate accurately and spin them out in different directions. This is done principally by use of hedonistic undertones to particular philosophies or narratives i.e. the whole Shamanism thing and repeated use of psychedelics, to stop a group of people forming a coherent psychic force. Note: Psychedelics are not necessary to generate this force, the 'Shakers' are a good example of a coordinated event where it is generated in focused group silence - think about concerts and any gathering of people.

Personally I think the adoption of psychedelics for therapeutic use is more a money making exercise than anything, because there is still an elevated risk that they may inadvertently spark an awakening in people. They know they can't keep the lid on them any more by direct repression, so now they have to move to the next stage which is controlled use only within the confines of their drab institutions (temples); try and establish through repetition a new narrative within the (psychic) confines of the consensus dream, so in 100 years people won't glimpse any mystery and see archetypes of snakes and animals in their visions, but instead see only Nike and Coca-Cola logos.

If, like Hugo, you have no intuition or direct experience yourself, then you can generally only reach for purely material explanations and concepts when dealing with our consensus dream. This will inevitably lead to erroneous conclusions, because one has overlooked a whole other set of factors.

The first protocol of TPTB has always been denial, because the truth can withstand scrutiny and lies can not. Once you concede a possibility as true then you have to accept confrontation and inevitably the truth begins to shine through - a contemporary example is vaccination, strict denial and no entertaining of other possibilities.

This is why when anyone with a public reach tells other people not to investigate things beyond a certain angle, in regards to spiritual matters (i.e. Christian preacher), then a red flag has to go up.

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Maddy's avatar

Thank you for taking the time to answer in such detail. What you say is extremely interesting and is something I will definitely research further. I remember reading that TPTB created the New Age movement for exactly the purpose you speak of, and sadly they have done the same with the alternative health movement.

I would be grateful if you could recommend a starting point for me , as there are so many charlatans out there ( Icke, Chopra etc) that it is difficult to know where to best invest your time :)

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Oof, where to begin. The simple answer is there isn't a singular source I can point to. I've been digging for about 20 years now, since I was a teenager, and it's sort of like a career in that you pick up a lot of stuff just by relentless experience; comparing, contrasting, re-evaluating, etc.

My own subjective experiences have massively influenced my views, how I sift information and triangulate, and unfortunately I can't pass that on directly. It also depends where your interests are, where you are at in terms of current understanding, current capacity, and other factors.

Invest time in yourself. Learn what it is that will make a better thinker out of yourself, remove distractions and vices to improve clarity and intuition, get healthy so you have more energy and capacity. Honestly, if I were teaching my unborn son I'd probably just tell him this world is a complete madhouse and that he's better off just pursuing psychological, philosophical, and spiritual knowledge, rather than any geopolitical stuff because that will just drive you up the wall.

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Rachel Smith's avatar

We must be in the end times simply by the engineering and presence of nuclear weapons and the foolishness of human kind.

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David Taylor's avatar

I watched a couple of his videos that appeared in my feed some time back and although I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, something about the vibe he gave out just seemed off to me. For whatever reason his videos stopped popping up and I had no desire to search him out. Like you said, there are plenty of other people out there that just give out a far more positive and consistent vibe.

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Rob Dubya's avatar

He's a stooge James, good call. I never liked him. Something about him was iffy. I think he's a distraction from good people like yourself. "Oh, you only think that coz you've seen a hugo talks video on YouTube". Well no actually, I listened to hours and hours of riveting intelligent conversation with open minded people who had slightly different opinions and didn't preach to me what was happening, they just spoke of their own investigations or experiences and left me to contemplate and come to my own rounded opinion. These Hugo Talks characters don't put forward a open discussion, its just a dog whistle for the stupid, who just want to get angry and not really challenge their minds with Intellectual discussion. Its where they want to catch the strays if you like. A bit like GB news but for people who don't like to watch the news.

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Abby Wynne's avatar

Hugo Talks always alerts us to controlled opposition and I found this refreshing and good during the worst times where I was potentially vulnerable to propaganda. His voice kept me grounded and centred and I would return to it for that purpose. I did think he was quite interested in Ireland so if he is indeed from Sligo that would explain it! The Christian thing is interesting but I see the Bible as a tool and not the beginning and the end so I’ve pulled back a little. He’s also become more preachy, he lost me with that. I still dip in from time to time as he does point out patterns in a way I’ve not seen them myself and I find it helpful. Everyone is not who they seem. At least he’s not pretending to be someone that he isn’t - we simply don’t know who he is in the first place! And as time goes on the more we connect to God the more we can be comfortable in the unknowing. Thanks James for a thought provoking article.

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Maddy's avatar

But sadly he IS pretending to be someone he is not.

People genuinely don't have a problem with him not showing his face; what they do have a problem with is him:-

1. Claiming to be against "satanic' Hollywood and what he calls the 'Peekaboo' club ... WHILST .....100% supporting it on his Yellow Film King channel.

2. Claiming to be against the petty distractions of mainstream media.... WHILST.... at the same time having a FAN channel devoted to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle .

and....

3. Quoting biblical scripture and Christianity.......WHILST.... having an open interest in Paganism (as shown in the imagery around his music as King Bathmat / Arcade Messiah / Sacred Ape)

Hugo encourages people to do their own research, especially when it comes to controlled opposition, but when you apply that same research to him ...... he simply blocks you.

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Maddy's avatar

For anyone interested in the proof that HugoTalks is John Bassett please listen to this interview he did as King Bathmat in 2013 available on Mix Cloud.

https://www.mixcloud.com/kscopeears/25th-august-2013-interview-with-john-bassett-from-kingbathmat/

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Allen Galbraith's avatar

I didn't think he sounded like Hugo... This was 10 years so and Hugo today sounds younger...

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Maddy's avatar

He does have a very young voice but that is definitely Hugo . If you watch this video you can see the evidence that links all of John Bassett's/Hugo's videos and websites.

https://odysee.com/who-is-hugo-tslks:6

His Yellow King Film channel is still available to view on YouTube where you can hear his voice and he also still runs the Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News Channel; which is strange for someone who claims to be anti Hollywood and the media.

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Allen Galbraith's avatar

Hi Maddy - Yes the evidence does seem to be there. Why do you think he is doing this? A lot of what he has been saying has been spot on. It seems very weird though. Having Hugo Talks speaking against Satanism and the media and having Satanic imagery in his music and the Harry and Megan site. None of it makes sense.

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Maddy's avatar

Hi Allen - You're right it doesn't make sense. When I discovered his Yellow Film King channel a year or so ago I politely asked him to address these contradictions. I wanted to give him a chance to explain ..... we all have things we might not be proud of in our past and we can all certainly change.....but sadly instead of answering my question I was immediately blocked, the same has happened to thousands of others.

My initial feelings on "Hugo" were he could be one of two things. Either he started out with good intentions, then realised that the Christian demographic would increase his subscribers and hence his Patreon account ...... or he was controlled opposition, out to create division and demoralisation in the newly awakened. However NOW after a year of research ( some of which is included in the video) I believe he is more than likely controlled opposition . I have witnessed YouTube deleting whole comment threads that have tried to expose him, and these contained nothing that would in any way flag up their usual reasons to block . An example is when I found the interview with John Bassett which exposes his voice .YT would not allow a link....which is fair enough....but they also banned comments such as ... "Please search Mixcloud King Bathmat 2013". Why would they do that ? These were not Hugos videos so he had no control over the blocking of those comments, in fact they were under a video titled "Who is Hugo ?". And as others have stated he became very big very quick, and whilst others were banned from YT for saying the same things as Hugo .... he was not.

Personally what I find sad is many Christians are now being deceived. If you look at the 'alternative' media you will see Christianity and especially the End Times narrative has been hijacked by TPTB, with the goal of creating more fear and divide; and if you look at 'Hugo's' comment sections they are now filled with hate and apathy, with many Christians turning on each other, arguing whose interpretation of scripture is correct. This is exactly what the TPTB want- a people divided is easily conquered.

I truly hope any Christians reading this look at all the evidence provided here; and James is right regarding Hugo's use of scripture, sadly it is very easy now to access sites that will provide scripture to fit any narrative. You have to remember Hugo himself says he knew nothing of the Bible a year ago, and yet now he is arguing doctrine with many who have studied it their entire lives.

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Allen Galbraith's avatar

Its a shame ... I rewatched his video "Divine Inspiration" today and he talks about his interest in movies etc an I thought it was a sound video. If we judge someone by their fruits then what he is saying about the fake media and the alternative media is true. I disasgree with him about John Campbell though. Is it possible he has just changed his views since he reviewed and watched those disturbing movies on his channel? I know my views on a lot of things have totally changed over the last 3 years.

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Maddy's avatar

I will just add that like you, in the beginning I was drawn to Hugo's channel because he was speaking many truths. I still believe the Controlled Opposition he exposed are indeed controlled, but that is what 'Gatekeepers' do - they give ninety nine truths to the one big lie !

Sadly it's called Bait and Switch...

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Maddy's avatar

This is Hugo/John on his film channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7ynbLHgUoM

And in the Stanley Kubrick video someone asks what is the music he uses and Hugo/John replies it is Sacred Ape ( which is one of his names as a musician) The others are King Bathmat and Arcade Messiah.

https://sacredape.bandcamp.com

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Michael freepress.ie's avatar

I create and I don't want people to know who I am either. I'm not in it for that.

I have questions about HT too at times James but that's not one of them.

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Jean Murray's avatar

Hi James,

Something you will be interested in,

Look at Sinead O Conner.

Perfect example of someone infiltrated by Satan.

She had huge influence of the Irish leaving the Catholic Church when she tore the Pope’s picture up and verbally slashed the church!

Stage 1 of Irish Catholic’s losing faith in God.

Jean Murray 0877733636

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Michael freepress.ie's avatar

Huge change agent for making abortion acceptable here too.

Jean it's a small interesting world, I ran into your cousin in Albufeira in April, glasses and short blonde hair, with her sister. You just came up in conversation chatting about the last three years at the bar. In a good way of course, talking about how families split. And here you are 🙂

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

I followed Hugo Talks throughout covid and found him informative on balance - but I have been finding him less so lately.

I could make a laundry list of all the "little things" that bother me, but the key thing is this one: in parallel with his newfound Christianity (which I have no problem with), he keeps dissing meditation.

Of course there are plenty of disingenuous people and websites trying to make a buck off of this age-old practise, but true meditation in and of itself is anything but evil.

In this modern age, our minds have been utterly and relentlessly attacked and undermined. Meditation is probably the single best antidote for this malaise. So why does Hugo Talks treat it like the surest path to Hell?

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Abby Wynne's avatar

Because when you go into a true meditative state if you’re not properly trained or protected your body can be infiltrated by dark energies.

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-=SS=-'s avatar

This argument doesn't hold weight at all. When you go to sleep at night you pass through a more sophisticated physiological process than currently is known to science, but importantly one which involves the very same subtle pathways that are invoked through meditation.

Nature has inbuilt protective mechanisms in the human vessel (including at the mental/psychic level). It is utterly absurd to think it would be otherwise, and the argument is the kind of fear based narrative that the Church itself puts out to dissuade anyone from investigating things that may lead to superior knowledge than the Church possesses.

These forces are around us all the time anyway. It's not as if meditation suddenly opens a portal that otherwise wasn't there. Every thought and action produces ripples and interactions with the subtle realm, regardless of what state you are in.

Unbeknownst to humanity, our lives are dominated by entities and forces we don't understand. You're more at risk by indulging in a sexual obsession than you are from meditating.

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ExPlan Nation's avatar

This item appears to cast enormous doubt on your key claims here: https://bayith.org/YogaTheBareFacts.pdf

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Enormous doubt. Ok chief. A choice selection of quotes and assumptions, again by a person who obviously does not know what they are talking about. Not only that, but they have actually accepted that the various Yoga practices indeed do produce effects of spiritual nature but then proceed to strike fear into the reader based on a clear outstanding Christian bias. For example,

"By using yoga techniques, you bypass the inbuilt safeguards that exist to stop your brain from becoming disconnected from your soul to any significant extent. Hence you relinquish a degree of control over your brain and you thereby allow another spiritual entity to ‘take up the slack’."

This is the exact argument that is used by opponents of astral projection. It is nonsense. First of all, you astral project (go 'out' of body) every single night when you sleep. Every night. You just do not remember it. From personal experience I know this. Second, there is an assumption built into the argument that the soul sits inside the body like a hand in a glove. This is again is not correct either and is just presented as truth; it stems from a materialistic philosophy that can't conceive of any alternative way of rectifying material with non-material. This goes clear back to the ancient Greeks, and extends to the realm of modern science too (atoms and particles).

"Sure enough, gurus talk about “absorption” of, or merging with, a spiritual entity: “Perhaps the dominant characteristic in … yoga practice is an experience of ...*possession*. Gopi Krishna describes the following experiences of most yogic, meditative, and mystical practices. ‘During the ecstasy or trance, consciousness is transformed and the yogi ... finds himself in direct rapport with an overwhelming Presence. This ... living, conscious Presence spreads everywhere and occupies the whole mind and thought of the devotee….’”

Again, a complete misunderstanding and falsehood presented as truth based on nothing but the authors bias. If you bother to actually understand what is written in the Hindu texts, about the Atman and Brahman, you would see again the author has misrepresented what Gopi Krishna is referring to here. There is no possession, no leaving. It is revealing what is already there that we are ignorant to under normal circumstances - God is moving you at all times, and you are That. There is no separation. There is no leaving, going 'out' (or something coming in). All that is removed are the thoughts/concepts that veil the Truth under ordinary circumstance.

The only two things the article gets correct is that yoga has a spiritual component inherently, but even then it doesn't bother to delineate 'yoga'; there are several branches of specific methodologies (physical, mental, etc).

The other is that Kundalini, a specific evolutionary force, should not be deliberately aroused without adequate preparation. But that is the whole point of yoga and spiritual development, to prepare you for that. It's not as dangerous as the article presents, in the same way psychedelics can have a positive impact but that blasting yourself with stupid amounts of LSD for example is reckless and dangerous.

This is a Christian fear narrative. The church wants people to be afraid, in the same way governments don't want people to investigate psychedelics, because they are afraid the people may learn something they (elite) don't know.

All while the RC Church has been secretly gathering occult knowledge through the Jesuit Order for over 500 years and applying it directly to advance their interests over the world i.e. influencing minds of political figures using hypnosis at a distance, which is a form of black magic.

These subjects are immensely more complex than this binary God vs Devil, Christian narrative. Even combining all the occult knowledge from Hinduism and the other religious systems is still nowhere close to an exact science at this point. It is akin to physical reality, we still barely understand that as it is!

It is prudent to have caution and doubt. But casting fear over something you don't personally understand is as reckless and detrimental as trying to force a spiritual experience.

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ExPlan Nation's avatar

Thanks. But your spectacularly dishonest portrayal of the item I cited tells me everything I need to know about the soundness of the religion you promote.

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Not dishonest. I read the entire thing and I applied my knowledge to it.

No where have I promoted a particular religion either. You're talking out of your backside, like Hugo, and all the other Christian preachers who are hopelessly enslaved to a particular narrative without bothering to fully investigate any of the other systems, or even investigate your self either.

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I have challenged Hugo a few times but got no response. Anyone who has actually bothered to research more religious systems than just Christianity will immediately notice the similarities between all of the major religions, and many of the smaller ones and cultures e.g various native tribes etc, especially in regards to what the mystics of each have reported down through the ages. There is a tremendous overlap in their descriptions.

Also anyone with any first hand experience of mystical states will be able to triangulate the truth and immediately see Hugo is completely full of shit, or at the least simply has no idea what he is talking about.

I get really tired of preachers. Christianity is antithetical to Jesus, first of all. And second, Christianity does not have a monopoly on Truth either. The Truth is available to all, in this moment, by birth rite. It does not require a Church, synagogue, or a bunch of words on paper.

This attitude of 'don't look for yourself, just trust the Bible bro' is why the Church is nothing but an evil fraud, founded on an immediate lie, and exists to keep people spiritually dull. If Jesus were alive he'd say the exact same thing; "Find out for yourself. Don't believe anyone. Not even me".

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Vivian Evans's avatar

Frankly, I've never heard of this 'HugoTalks' nor have I come across his youtube channels. So I have no dog in that race. I do however agree with your last sentence: "A lot of us seem to be pretty good at the dove like innocence; the serpentine wisdom not so much." Exactly so. However, a lot of us are very dove-like, wary of doubting some social media figure who openly or covertly proclaims to be Christian, as if that self-proclamation means they cannot possibly be snakes in the grass.

We clearly all need more training in serpentine wisdom. One might also call it to sharpen one's inner cynic. Old people (like me!) are pretty good at this ...

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Fionnuala Murphy's avatar

He's not on Youtube these days, he was barred, except sometimes he puts the ad there and then a link. You'll find some of them on Bitchute and other platforms

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sue's avatar

Gos is hate someone to dig into my past and find I looked at royal videos and yes the goat collective and be understood as as scapegoats uniting which terrifies the devil. Also who tf is the person making the vid? He can't seem to id himself either oh dear. You however and that miri with ith the Russian fur cap and hapsburg jaw aiming to mop up disaffected voters, are clear on the list of people Im so glad won't be in heaven

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sue's avatar

Im not oblivious to this stuff but just as likely I intelligence would smear someone genuine with a 30 minute doccie right? No James, quit yer frothing. It matters not the messenger but the message. Since I'm independently minded I don't care about the messenger, the ideas are what interests me. In South Africa friends have started a political party. Hugo (and Jesus) don't believe voting is the way. Whoever is controlled we also see them outed but faultlessly genuine types like Hugo and milesatgis get smeared anyway. Hugo gets the vid cuz he's UK. Hugo has interesting topics and no no one thinks just like me but I enjoy what I like. I don't understand pi so if Mathis says it's 4 and someone else says it's 3.14 I really don't care. I don't mistake hugo quoting the Bible for the Bible. That said I'll watch the vid now so I have it in case anything jumps up

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Mike Boyle's avatar

Good shout I think you’re right about Hugo, I mean John Bassett, what is he up to I wonder 🤔

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Allen Galbraith's avatar

The only way "Hugo" can redeem himself is to counter all this and reveal himself online. This is unlikely to happen.

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